I first met Joel Jackson when I was working at Digitas and he was a writer looking for an internship. Joel is still a student and we remain in touch, but what really impresses me is his tenacity in preparing himself for his professional life when he graduates. When we communicate, I often have to remind myself that he is still a student. Today I’m going to talk with Joel about studying advertising in school and what that’s like.
Me: Could you tell us where you’re a student and what the program is like?
Joel: I’m a Senior majoring in Advertising with a minor in Geography at Kansas State University. The program requires all ad majors to take a smorgasbord of mass comm. classes, such as Writing, Media Planning, Ad Techniques, and the flagship course, Ad Campaigns, which is a combination of everything we’ve learned.
The curriculum helps students figure out what they’d like to do. Other elective courses are mandatory, and some professors are willing to facilitate classes toward your focus. For example, I’ll be doing an independent study to work on my portfolio next semester.
Me: What made you decide to focus in advertising?
Joel: In the beginning, I was an Art major — a young sprout with little direction. The problem was that I didn’t love it. So I took a test that focused on my interests and strong points. The result: Art and Advertising. I haven’t looked back since.
Me: What would you like to do when you get out?
Joel: The plan right now is to find a job that is a good fit for both me and the company I’ll be working for — a place where I can grow and flex my creative muscles.
Me: You’ve been really good about getting internships, could you talk about that? Why are you doing them? What was your experience at Barkley like?
Joel: Internships are essential. You learn so many things by experience in an agency that you could never learn in the collegiate setting. When you get a job, your employer will expect you to have a clue of what to do on the first day.
Two summers ago, I worked as a writer/intern at Barkley in Kansas City. Barkley is a great agency that cares about their clients and employees. There I worked with over ten clients from concept to execution, and all of the interns made a successful pitch to a real prospective client.
Last year, I applied at over 50 agencies in the U.S. and the same amount internationally. The latter was a shot in the dark. I contacted creatives via Facebook and e-mail who’ve had a hand in making great work. Five responded, and I had three leads — two in South Africa and one in New York.
The South African government requires agencies to hire native students, because there’s a high demand for those who cannot afford the opportunity elsewhere. The other offer I was given, in New York, unfortunately didn’t work out. Instead, I traveled a lot and did some freelance work.
Me: You started the ad club at KSU. Could you tell us about that?
Joel: The ad club was founded long before I was a college student. However, I did start the new digital model at ksuadclub.com, where more attention is given to having speakers online than in-person. Using a recording from Skype, we can have speakers from around the country and world. Now the ad club’s membership dues and fundraising are going toward scholarships for travel and other events.
I’ve learned that it’s difficult for students to be somewhere without an appointment or reminder. This semester has been the busiest yet, so I’m behind on updating the podcasts. Thankfully we get to take a breather, so I’ll be updating the site during winter break.
Me: Through this club, you’ve been able to talk to a lot of people active in the industry. What is the most important thing you’ve learned so far?
Joel: Everyone I’ve spoken with in the industry has a real excitement for their respective field. You must have a passion for what you’re doing, along with a natural curiosity…for everything.
Me: What advice do you have for students who are interested in advertising?
Joel: A lot of what I’ve learned as a student in advertising has been outside of the classroom — by reading awards annuals, visiting relevant websites and talking with the contacts I’ve made.
Here’s my recommendation to students:
Learn the rules and everything in-between. Then you can break them by doing your own thing. Advertising agencies thrive on creating something new, not being order takers.
If you don’t like what you’re doing, figure out what’s wrong. You may be in need of some inspiration. Or what you thought you liked may not be for you after all. Find what you love, whatever it is, and hold onto it.
Once you’ve found your desired field, declare it to the professional world — on social networks, your business card, resume, cover letter, portfolio and during interviews. If you’re still not sure what it is, decide anyhow.
You’ll need to decide because an internship is so important in getting a job. The internship is both a trial (for you and the agency) to see if you’re cut out for it. And while you’re there, you may find something else that interests you — like media planning, account service, production, etc.
Hopefully that — combined with passion, perseverance and curiosity — will help you succeed in getting a job after graduation. I’m still a student, so we’ll see if it works. I wish you the best.
Me: What are you most excited about right now?
Joel: I’m excited for next semester — working on my portfolio, taking Digital Ethnography with internationally-acclaimed professor Dr. Michael Wesch [who’s probably found this…Hi, Dr. Wesch!], and going on a missions trip to Chile (first time abroad). It’s going to be incredible.
Me: What is your biggest challenge right now?
Joel: Students on the way to getting a Bachelor of Science degree, myself included, have to take quantitative reasoning courses. Quana-what? Exactly. It’s difficult to enjoy the last required classes of my college life, but they’ve got to get done.
Me: What are you most proud of?
Joel: I’m proud of trying different things just to see if I can do them. I was a vegan for a month, but because I’m such a picky eater, I lost a lot of weight. My hair has been black, blonde, dark purple, highlighted, and auburn. And right now, I’m growing my (natural) hair out for Locks of Love.
Me: What is your portfolio site and how can people get in touch with you?
Joel: You can visit all of my sites and social networks by going to joelajackson.extendr.com. Feel free to e-mail me at joelj@ksu.edu.
If anyone’s interested, I’m looking for an internship as a writer this summer.
Thank you for reading. Have the merriest of holidays!











